Legislature(2005 - 2006)

05/23/2005 09:51 PM House 066

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               24th ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                        1st SESSION                                                                                             
           CONFERENCE COMMITTEE ON HB 66 & HB 67                                                                                
                        May 23, 2005                                                                                            
                         9:51 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Chair Chenault called  the Conference Committee on  HB 66 and                                                                   
HB 67 to order at 9:51:02 PM.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senate:                                                                                                                         
     Senator Gary Wilken Vice-Chair                                                                                             
     Senator Lyda Green, Member                                                                                                 
     Senator Lyman Hoffman, Member                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
House:                                                                                                                          
     Representative Mike Chenault, Chair                                                                                        
     Representative Kevin Meyer, Member                                                                                         
     Representative Eric Croft, Member                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
David  Teal, Director,  Legislative  Finance Division;  Nancy                                                                   
Slagle,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                                   
Department  of Transportation  and Public Facilities;  fiscal                                                                   
analysts  with  the  Office  of  Management  and  Budget  and                                                                   
Legislative Finance Division; and  aides to committee members                                                                   
and other members of the Legislature.                                                                                           
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 67(FIN)(brf sup maj fld)                                                                                                   
     An Act making appropriations  for the operating and loan                                                                   
     program  expenses  of  state   government,  for  certain                                                                   
     programs, and to capitalize  funds; and providing for an                                                                   
     effective date."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     CSHB 66(FIN)                                                                                                               
     An Act making appropriations for the operating and                                                                         
     capital    expenses    of   the    state's    integrated                                                                   
     comprehensive mental  health program; and  providing for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
and                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     SCS CSHB 67(FIN)                                                                                                           
     An Act making appropriations  for the operating and loan                                                                   
     program  expenses  of  state   government,  for  certain                                                                   
     programs,    and    to    capitalize    funds;    making                                                                   
     appropriations  under art. IX, sec.  17(c), Constitution                                                                   
     of the State of Alaska, from the constitutional budget                                                                     
    reserve fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     SCS CSHB 66(FIN)                                                                                                           
     An  Act  making  appropriations for  the  operating  and                                                                   
     capital    expenses    of   the    state's    integrated                                                                   
     comprehensive mental  health program; and  providing for                                                                   
     an effective date."                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Administration                                                                                                             
     Corrections                                                                                                                
     Health and Social Services and wordage                                                                                     
     Labor                                                                                                                      
     Law                                                                                                                        
     Natural Resources                                                                                                          
     Public Safety                                                                                                              
     Transportation and Public Facilities                                                                                       
     University of Alaska                                                                                                       
     Statewide Budget Items                                                                                                     
     Mental Health Budget                                                                                                       
     Language Items                                                                                                             
     Fiscal Notes                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     CCS HB 66 and CCS HB 67 were REPORTED out of Committee.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT Department of Administration's                                                                    
budget items as follows:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
          Item 3         House $127.1                                                                                           
          Item 9           House                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.  Chair Chenault                                                                    
noted that the action would close the Department of                                                                             
Administration's budget.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:52:37 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT the Department of Corrections                                                                     
budget items as follows:                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1        Senate minus $50.0                                                                                           
     Item 2         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 3         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 4         House                                                                                                       
     Item 5         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 6         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 7         House                                                                                                       
     Item 8         House                                                                                                       
     Item 9         House                                                                                                       
     Item 10        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 11        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 12        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 13        Senate                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO  OBJECTION, it was so ordered.  Chair Chenault                                                                   
noted  that  the   action  would  close  the   Department  of                                                                   
Correction's Budget.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:53:45 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  MOVED to ADOPT  the Department of  Health and                                                                   
Social Services' budget items as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 2         Senate minus -$150                                                                                          
     Item 3         A House B House minus $500 I/A                                                                              
     Item 4         House                                                                                                       
     Item 5         House                                                                                                       
     Item 6         House                                                                                                       
     Item 7         House                                                                                                       
     Item 8         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 9         Senate A & B                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:55:53 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  questioned the affect of Items  1 and 2                                                                   
on the Pioneers  Home. Senator Green explained  that it would                                                                   
delay the opening.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  MOVED to ADOPT  the Department of  Health and                                                                   
Social Services' budget items as follows:                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Item 10        Senate A & B                                                                                                
     Item 11        Senate A & B                                                                                                
     Item 12        House                                                                                                       
     Item 13        House                                                                                                       
     Item 14        House                                                                                                       
     Item 15        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 16 A      Senate minus $5,194,100                                                                                     
     Item 16 B      Senate minus $4,660,700                                                                                     
     Item 17        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 18        House                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:58:32 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft noted that  he had questions on items 12                                                                   
- 17. He did  not object to item 18. He observed  that Family                                                                   
Preservation  grants for  $135.3  recommended  by the  Senate                                                                   
were not  funded in item 12.  He OBJECTED to the  adoption of                                                                   
Item 12.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion to adopt item 12.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Rep. Meyer, Sen. Wilken,  Rep. Chenault, Sen. Green                                                                   
OPPOSED: Rep. Croft, Sen. Hoffman                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION PASSED:  Senate 2 yeas, 1 nay                                                                                        
                    House 2 yeas, 1 nay                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft questioned item  16. He noted  that the                                                                   
diference on the unrealized cost  containment would be split.                                                                   
He had no further objections.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, items 12 - 18 were adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:59:04 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Item 19        House                                                                                                       
     Item 20        House                                                                                                       
     Item 21        Senate minus $2 million                                                                                     
     Item 22        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 23        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 24        House                                                                                                       
     Item 25        House                                                                                                       
     Item 26        Senate                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:59:39 PM                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft  asked about item 21. He  noted that the                                                                   
Senate had already reduced the item by one million dollars.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green explained that the  item refers back to items 1                                                                   
- 3. She maintained that there was no net loss.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken explained that  the funds would go through the                                                                   
Legislative Budget and Audit Committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft asked if  the conference committee could                                                                   
reduce the amount beyond the Senate  number, but acknowledged                                                                   
the numbers added up.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, items 19 - 26 were adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:01:51 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Item 27        House                                                                                                       
     Item 28        House                                                                                                       
     Item 29        House                                                                                                       
     Item 30        House                                                                                                       
     Item 31 A      Senate minus -$3,803,100                                                                                    
     Item 31 B      Senate minus -$2,542,200                                                                                    
     Item 32        Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 33        House                                                                                                       
     Item 34        Senate A & B                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, items 27 - 34 were adopted.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:02:45 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT  the all wordage for Department                                                                   
of Health and Social Services  items. He explained that under                                                                   
Health  Care   Services  on  page  3,   conditional  language                                                                   
starting with  "no money appropriated" is duplicated  and has                                                                   
been deleted from the worksheet.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft observed  that one  is specifically  to                                                                   
Health Care Services  and the other is in the  general budget                                                                   
of the Department of Health and Social Services.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Chenault  observed  that Health  and  Social  Services                                                                   
Budget had been closed.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:04:12 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  MOVED to  ADOPT  the Department  of  Labor's                                                                   
budget item as follows:                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Item 2        House                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft observed  that the Office of Citizenship                                                                   
Assistance  would  be  retained,  with  a  reduction  of  $26                                                                   
thousand.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Chair Chenault  observed that the action would  close Labor's                                                                   
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:04:50 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken MOVED  to ADOPT  Department  of Law's  budget                                                                   
item as follows:                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Item 2        House                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Chenault observed that the action would  close the                                                                      
Department of Law's budget.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:05:06 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  MOVED to  ADOPT  the Department  of  Natural                                                                   
Resources budget item as follows:                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Item 5    House                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Chenault  observed that  the  action would  close  the                                                                   
Department of Natural Resource's budget.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:05:27 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  MOVED  to ADOPT  the  Department  of  Public                                                                   
Safety's budget items as follows                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
    Item 1          Senate                                                                                                      
    Item 2          Senate                                                                                                      
    Item 3          House                                                                                                       
    Item 4          Senate                                                                                                      
    Item 5          Senate [Item 5 was first held open then                                                                     
   moved and adopted as House]                                                                                                  
    Item 6          Senate                                                                                                      
    Item 7          Senate                                                                                                      
    Item 8          Senate [Item 5 was first held open then                                                                     
   moved and adopted as House]                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman referred to item  1 trooper housing. He asked                                                                   
if  the lower  number was  taken because  the troopers  can't                                                                   
obtain the  housing in time. He  asked if an  increment would                                                                   
be seen  in FY07. Chair  Chenault expected that  an increment                                                                   
would be seen at the appropriate time.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken noted that item 9 would also be the Senate.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft referred  to items 5 and 8. He suggested                                                                   
that  funding would  be only  provided for  the sex  offender                                                                   
registry,  but  not cover  the  under-funding  of the  Alaska                                                                   
Concealed  Handgun program.  He objected  to the adoption  of                                                                   
items 5  and 8.  He observed that  due to  the passage  of HB
102,  fewer people  are getting  handgun  permits, which  has                                                                   
reduced funding to the program.  He felt that those that want                                                                   
a  permit should  be supported  and  that the  fee cannot  be                                                                   
raised sufficiently.  He felt that the fee  should be covered                                                                   
as a small state expense.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken  MOVED  to  ADOPT  the  conference  committee                                                                   
recommendations for the Department  of Public Safety with the                                                                   
exception that items  5 and 8 would remain  open. There being                                                                   
NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:10:17 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Item 5 - House                                                                                                             
     Item 8 - House                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:10:41 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wilken   MOVED   to   ADOPT   the   Department   of                                                                   
Transportation and Public facility budget item as follows:                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Item 20        Senate                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken MOVED  to Rescind the  Committee's action  in                                                                   
adopting  Item  19.  There  being NO  OBJECTION,  it  was  so                                                                   
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator wilken MOVED to ADOPT:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Item 19 A - House                                                                                                          
     Item 19 B - Senate                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
NANCY SLAGLE, DIRECTOR, DIVISION  OF ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES,                                                                   
DEPARTMENT   OF   TRANSPORTATION   AND   PUBLIC   FACILITIES,                                                                   
explained  that  the  change would  give  the  Alaska  Marine                                                                   
Highway an additional $1,985,600  in expenditure authority to                                                                   
operate the sytem.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft asked  the  affect of  item  19 B.  Ms.                                                                   
Slagle explained  that the  Senate appropriation  would allow                                                                   
general  funds to  go directly  to the  budget component,  as                                                                   
opposed to  going through  the Fund (as  in the House  side).                                                                   
The funds would  not show as duplication and  would be easier                                                                   
for accounting purpose.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:13:52 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There  being NO  OBJECTION, it  was so  ordered. This  action                                                                   
will close Transportation's budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:14:02 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT  the University budget items as                                                                   
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    House minus -$1,722,000                                                                                          
     Item 3    House                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken explained  that  funding  for the  University                                                                   
would be $11.9, $1.722 and $3.4 from the next motion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Chenault  noted  that the  Committee's  actions  would                                                                   
close the University of Alaska's budget.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
10:15:09 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED  to ADOPT the Statewide  Budget items as                                                                   
follows:                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Chenault noted that the Committee's actions would                                                                         
close all statewide budget items.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:15:42 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT Language items:                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 2         No action required                                                                                          
     Item 3         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 4         No action required                                                                                          
     Item 5         No action required                                                                                          
     Item 6         No action required                                                                                          
     Item 7         No action required                                                                                          
     Item 8         House                                                                                                       
     Item 9         Senate                                                                                                      
     Item 10        No action                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair Chenault noted that the Committee's actions would                                                                         
close the language section.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
10:16:33 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT the Mental Health budget items                                                                    
as follows:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Item 1    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 2    House                                                                                                            
     Item 3    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 4    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 5    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 6    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 7    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 8    House                                                                                                            
     Item 9    Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 10   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 11   House                                                                                                            
     Item 12   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 13   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 14   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 15   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 16   Senate                                                                                                           
     Item 17   Senate                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Observed that the detox center would be fully funded.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:17:45 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken MOVED to ADOPT the fiscal notes as attached                                                                      
(copy on file.)                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:18:55 PM                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken   MOVED  to   ADOPT  give  authorization   to                                                                   
Legislative  Finance  and  Legislative   Legal  to  make  any                                                                   
necessary technical  and conforming  amendments on  these two                                                                   
bills and  that the Committee  close action  on HB 66  and 67                                                                   
and move them out.                                                                                                              
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 10:19 PM                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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